Atheism: The Non-Prophet Way Of Life
Here we expose the religions of the world for the frauds they really are.
Preying on the gullible and lost, giving them all the answers they want to hear,
and in turn leading them into a world of ignorance and disinformation; religion has got to go.
Filed Under (Funny Stuff) by Ian on 20-10-2007
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This comic strip rocks harder than jesus 5-starring free bird.
funny thing, there is a place in Norway that’s called “Hell”
hmm… everything about norway is true… incl the Hell part… cool! btw, the national railway has a station in Hell - and I have a ticket: Roundtrip to Hell with a 3 day stay :)
Review Norway’s immigration policy much?
well, 85 percent of norways population is member of a chuch. But it sure made me laugh!
In norwegian “hell” is a word for luck x)
joachim, it’s hard to get your name out of the records of the church in case you don’t know.
Hell og lykke. (means “good luck”(directly translated it means “luck and happines”)).
85% of Norwegians are members of a church, yet most of them still describe themselves as atheists/agnostics. In Norway, being member of a church is more of a tradional thing, than it is religious.
Norway sounds pretty sweet!
Who cares, economic success, unemployment etc. is not a case for atheism, nor is old testament genocide a case for religion, the reality is that fervent religious belief makes no sense unless you’re unfortunate enough to have been indoctrinated or are happy to live in comfortable delusion (at least I know I won’t burn in hell, type comfort!). Look at it this wayIf Norway was as nice as I’m sure it is, but 99% of the population were good churchgoers, I still wouldn’t believe in god!! The cartoon is good though!!!
Citizens of Norway are automatically considered and registered as members of the state church, the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Norway, unless they explicitly note otherwise. This hardly constitutes 85% religiosity.
Well, Norway can be used as a model (of sorts) to support the argument some Atheists try to make - people and societies can be ethical and “good” and productive without religion. I find it compelling and the cartoon sums it up nicely.
The teachings of the brotherhood of man founded on the fatherhood of God is by far better then the alternatives.
Brotherhood constitutes a fact of relationship between every person. No person can escape the benefits or the penalties that may come as a result of relationship to other persons. The part profits or suffers in measure with the whole. The good effort of each man benefits all men; the error or evil of each man augments the tribulation of all men. As moves the part, so moves the whole. As the progress of the whole, so the progress of the part. The relative velocities of part and whole determine whether the part is retarded by the inertia of the whole or is carried forward by the momentum of the cosmic brotherhood.
This truth can be accepted or rejected the one thing we all have is the power to choose.
Choice is an illusion. Everything that will happen has already been decided by the past.
I am an Australian and Atheism was at 12% 6years ago and las t years census it climbed to 20%.
I hope it is catching.
I have news for the athiests out there … the MAJORITY of industrialized countries are Athiest, and the MAJORITY of these countries are more currupt than any others. Actually, now that I think of it, is there even one country in the world that is run by Christians? I don’t think so … but one thing is for sure … It’s sure isn’t AMERICA! Remember people, just because someone says they are Christian, that does NOT make it so. Infact the Bible says you will know them (Christians) by their fruits, (Fruits of the Spirit) so doesn’t that mean that those who are hypocrites to Biblical standards are not genuine Christians?
Seriously … even those who worship Satan in the open aren’t ignorant enough to claim there is no God, unfortunatly they just hate Him like most of the world, which of course there is NO justifiable reason. Now, don’t come on here and tell me that there’s no reason to Love God either, because you have more than enough evidence throughout history to show the mercy and compassion of God, and the exact opposite is shown for the one who rules this earth in whom the Athiests serve unknowingly … Satan. (Sad but true)
Alright I admit I’m getting preachy and off topic, but this seemed like a good time to get that off my chest.
I do however find it funny that the Athiest movement is the one group who is always whining about how they are persecuted about their beliefs. Have Athiests been killed for their belief around the world on a Daily Basis? Have they been continually persecuted throughout history like the Jews and Christians? Have they ever had to give their life for what they believe?
Why am I expected to have sympathy for a group of people who are supposed to believe in nothing ANYWAY! Alright, you believe in nothing … we get it!
“the MAJORITY of industrialized countries are Athiest, and the MAJORITY of these countries are more currupt than any others”
This is untrue both by the percentage of the populations of those countries that identify as religious in censuses and by the number of those countries with explicit or implicit state religions.
You also haven’t seen how corrupt non-industrialized countries in the global south can get. Or churches.
And who mentioned corruption anyway?
“I do however find it funny that the Athiest movement is the one group who is always whining about how they are persecuted about their beliefs. Have Athiests been killed for their belief around the world on a Daily Basis? Have they been continually persecuted throughout history like the Jews and Christians? Have they ever had to give their life for what they believe?”
If atheists are the only group who complain about being persecuted then why are you complaining about the religious being persecuted? That makes no sense.
Atheists are killed for their political beliefs the same as anyone else. They have been persecuted by Christians and burnt at the stake as heretics. And they have had to give their lives for what they believe in the same as anyone else in any war or conflict you care to mention.
“Why am I expected to have sympathy for a group of people who are supposed to believe in nothing ANYWAY! ”
Because you are a good Christian and have read what is written of Christ’s teachings regarding charity, sympathy and forgiveness?
Or failing that because you have the same evolved capacity for sympathy as everyone else and shouldn’t let your religiously-inspired hatred take it away part of what it means to be human from you?
I have a rock. It is an anti-tiger rock. I don’t see any tigers around, so my rock must be working!
None of what you mentioned can be showed to be causal. In fact, I’m sure I can find several secular states in Africa that will demonstrate the opposite of what you propose. In fact, the Democratic Republic of the Congo is a secular state and probably the worst country in the world to live in. So what? Specious.
“Why am I expected to have sympathy for a group of people who are supposed to believe in nothing ANYWAY!”
We don’t care whether you do or not. We just want you to keep your retarded delusions to yourself, and stop bothering everyone else with them.
@Frank: Congo is heavily religious. Virtually the entire population is Christian, those that aren’t are members of a different religion. I’m really not sure were you get your claims that Congo is a ’secular state’, unless you mean that it’s not a theocracy.
Is it possible that Jesus is Hiding out in Norway? Who wants to find Jesus with me?
I went through Hell getting to Trondheim last year (arf arf).
A good friend of mine is an ex-paratrooper from the 82nd Airborne. His wife is half Norwegian, and so still a Norse citizen. When they started having children, and our government started going to hell, they decided to move to Oslo with the kids. They are extremely happy about their decision, love Norway and the rational, friendly, well-educated people there, and the non-insane government gets high marks, too. Although they miss the States once in awhile, whenever I talk to them they remind me that it’s a great country and that their door is always open. Hmmm….why do I still live in the U.S.?
Very good!
It’s far more likely that their peacefulness comes from the fact that there is tremendous economic prosperity in Norway, which reduces the number of poor/disenfranchised people, which in turn reduces the desire for armed conflict to change the status quo.
You know why they’re so prosperous? Oil. They have a lot of it, and every Norwegian national gets a share of the take. When you’re talking about large populations — not individuals — peace doesn’t have anything to do with how religious people are. It has to do with how well the wants and needs of the people are being satisfied.
@joel Athiests don’t believe in nothing.. That would be a Nihlist. And nihlists believe in “nussing labosky NUSSING!”
Where’s the money Lebowski? WHERE’S THE FUCKING MONEY LEBOWSKI?!
mmm the dude,,
Nice comic btw ^^
All I have to say is that I will pray for everyone of you. I will pray for your eyes to be opened to the truth of the Gospel of Jesus who loves everyone of you. He loved you so much that he stretched out his arms and died for you!
I can tell you exactly what the strip is supposed to mean because I drew it. The intention of the comic is not to imply that a less religious society is necessarily a better one, but rather that the claims made constantly by Bill O’Reily, Pat Robertson and every conservative politician ever, that it’s the secularization of America that’s to blame for our problems is just silly and demonstrably false.
If it were the lack of religiosity that caused poverty, suffering, immorality and crime, then places like Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Japan would be in ruins by now. The fact that those places are doing better than America in many ways is a huge problem for the people posing the argument. And I think that’s funny. I’m not trying to imply causality, just pointing out lack of correlation.
You leave me the Hell alone, jeremy! I’m staying!
A very good point, Chaz, unfortunately it is rational and not emotional. You’re just not pushing the right buttons and let’s face it, that is what all those arguments against a secular America are all about. The religious backers speak in sound bites and fear mongering phrases. All the talk about religion takes the focus away from the real issue, individual spirituality.
Even atheists have spiritual beliefs, I would even go so far as to say they are kind of spiritual at times. I am sure the Norwegians must be very level headed people endowed with a the ability to think rationally. Maybe they even take inividual responsibility seriously and therefore have thought about the issue of atheism and religion and have come to their own conclusions. In America we like strong leaders, leaders who aren’t afraid to lead from the back of the pack especially when the pack are lemmings and getting ever closer to the cliff.
So I am afraid what the Norwegians have just wouldn’t work here. IN the U.S., strong religious leaders who can control the little lemmings are in vogue and not likely to go away soon. Still, keep up the good work! We will eventually find inner peace and finally our own undiscovered self, one person at a time.
Im an athiest Norwegian and I can tell you there is a whole lot more peace in my spirit simply because I DIDNT VOTE FOR AN ASSHOLE THAT JUSTIFIES THE KILLING OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS. You christians that voted for Bush, if your doctrine is correct, are all as responsible for the death and suffering in Iraq as he is. I know there is a Republican party in hell for you!!
Comment to CraigB: Actually you’re not automatically a member of the state church in Norway, you have to be christened to be a member.
Ruud you are a dumb shit. Get your facts right. The killing of innocents… We are killing people who would be slaughtering their own people if we didn’t happen to show up.
You ignorant fuk, this so-called save iraq war has taken twice the lives than that during Saddam’s rule. 600,000 and counting……you and your brainless brothers are a bunch of morons. what are you,about 16 years old? uneducated. uninformed. “well, my pastor told me so it must be true”. hey dumb ass(and the rest of your crew of stupid) has Bush done ANYTHING to reverse RoevWade? You idiots!!! bush used you all to get his murderous ass elected. who’s the real douche bags now?
A comment on the apparent paradox: “70 percent of norwegians are atheist” and yet “85 percent of norways population is member of a church”.
There might just be a connection between these two facts, as the chuch with pretty much all those members happens to be the state sponsored national church (in previous times used by the government as a convenient tool of control). Now, being securely funded by the state THIS CHURCH DOESN’T NEED TO DO ANY EFFECTIVE ADVERTICING. There’s no need to fool the individual believers out of their money, hence no need for cheap rhetorical tricks (puching the right buttons, painting graphic images of hell, damnation, the rapture and the like…) - and as result we norwegians are blessed with a rather toothless (and boring) church, increasingly receding into the realms of irrelevance . There’s obviously other explanations as well, but I think that there’s a good chance that the lack of any serious economic incentives for fooling the crowds have done a lot of good for norwegian society. In contrast, the free enterprice american religious corporations fighting for the soul of anyone with a wallet provide a blossoming market for the most effective emotional button pushers (or con-men) out there… I hate to admit it, but state religion might not be a bad idea in all instances. Yes, I’m terrified of theocracies like Iran, but I think the Nordic states provide interesting examples of state religion actually breeding non-belief…
Atheists have been, and are being persecuted, where you are getting these facts, is beyond me. But late Roman Empire, it was considered a capital crime. Hitler, banned free thought organizations, a quote, “We have . . . undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.” In Iran, Atheists are not considered citizens, they aren’t granted basic rights. Have fun Bible thumper..
I think this comic was stupid and what good has Norway done for the world anyways…other than be raped by the Germans in WWII.
Jeffrey Higginbotham: Your comment is so stupid it honestly has to be a joke, therefore I will take it as one. Ahahahahaha. You clown shoe, you crack me up.
i didn’t read everything, but so far… being pagan, (and not active in even that) i think that it’s a good comic strip. Torgeir has a very good point. having a state religion, has worked for them, while in the past, it becomes corrupted and such. look at Iraq and such. they take the Qur’an and make it their law. the united states, has freedom of religion, being that you can worship as you choose to, and not have to worry about being persecuted. being only 20, i don’t know a whole lot yet. my experience though, and seeing how the religions here work, it seems to me that it’s a race for members and wealth.
when the end comes, if there is an end, it will probably be quick, and very boring. till then, catholics, mormons, and other christians will still be passing the collection plate, asking for titheing, and such. atheists have the same morals and standards as religious people. be nice, don’t kill people, ect. the only difference is, if you’re bad, or a dick to an old lady, you don’t have someone telling you you’re going to burn for all eternity. america is not the greatest country in the world. our president is an idiot and our education is horrible. recently in UT, there was a referendum to give money to families that want to put there children into charter schools. they would recieve a better education there, but public schools don’t like it.
if our govt. would spend more money on education, and reforming our economy, instead of picking fights on countrys that didn’t have anything to do with destryoing the world trade center… (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, afganastan…) then we wouldn’t have had more people die. the US has had more friendly fire deaths then from the enemy… who cares if they have wmds… their countries don’t have the technology to send them that far. the most they would do is attack the jews and then get totally raped in return. (don’t fuck with the jews. they will kill you :P) being to much of one thing is bad. if you think i’m a sinner and will burn for saying this, then fuck you. if you think that i don’t know one thing about atheisim and shouldn’t say anything. fuck you. in a world where you can talk to anyone, anywhere, why worry about beliefs. people are people and if a country is doing good with a state religion that no one goes to, then cool. the russians are like that too.. just be alive. be nice to people, don’t persecute people if they aren’t hurting anyone, and the ones that do hurt people, tell them to knock it the fuck off, and leave it at that. they’ll get theirs.
“You know why they’re so prosperous? Oil. They have a lot of it, and every Norwegian national gets a share of the take.”
Denmark, Sweden, and Finland, has no oil. And yet, theese nations are just as peacefull, educated and “good” as Norway. So, no it has nothing to do with how much oil (money) the state has. If that was the case, Iraq would be one of the best places in the world to live, but I’ve heard that it’s not.
I’m an atheist and very pro-atheist, but I’m a bit ashamed of the duplicity I discovered in this comic. As a skeptic, I never accept an important claim without external citation or verification. Upon further investigation, I discovered that the “70%” statistic is a bit deceptive, excluding only those who believe in a personal diety. The real stats are as follows:
* 32% of Norwegian citizens responded that “they believe there is a God”.
* 47% answered that “they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force”.
* 17% answered that “they do not believe there is any sort of spirit, God, or life force”.
Citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodoxy_in_Norway#Religion_in_Norway_today
“In 2005, a survey conducted by Gallup International in sixty-five countries indicated that Norway was the least religious country in Western Europe, with 29% counting themselves as believing in a church or deity, 26% as being atheists, and 45% not being entirely certain.” Wikipedia says. I guess “not entirely certain” is sort of agnostic. I’d say more like 75 % of people in younger generations are completely atheists though.
HAhahahahaaa…ha….. heh… heheheeee…. whew…
flame thread was funnier than the comic.
Oh, shit… fell off my soap box. sorry.
You can also include The Netherlands,Spain and England to the list of Secular countries that have a good, strong and stable society.
Repeating what Brandon said:
Upon further investigation, I discovered that the “70%” statistic is a bit deceptive, excluding only those who believe in a personal diety. The real stats are as follows:
* 32% of Norwegian citizens responded that “they believe there is a God”.
* 47% answered that “they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force”.
* 17% answered that “they do not believe there is any sort of spirit, God, or life force”.
Citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodoxy_in_Norway#Religion_in_Norway_today
There is an atheist who is walking out in the woods thinking evolution caused all of the beauty of the forest. Well along comes this 7 foot tall grizzly bear. The atheist turned around and saw the grizzly and screamed a bloodcurdling scream and runs up the hill. Then the grizzly starts chasing and closing in on him. Well just as the bear got ready to kill him he screamed save me God! Time stopped and a bright light shown in the sky and god said why should I save you after all these years of you teaching others I’m not real? The atheist replied, Lord it would be a hypocrisy to ask to be a Christian now but could you at least make the bear Christian? The Lord said O.K. Time started again and the bear took its paw away and put both together and said”Lord thank you for this food I am about to receive Amen.
Rofolcopers… your god is dead….
In fact it is a place in Norway called Hell, and for sure they are talking Norwegian there.
I guess the remaining 30% worship Satan while listening to death metal and burning down churches, eh? ;)
Joel, TC and Melody … are you guys 14 or what ?
Look, I understand the idea of debate. The very essence of argument requires at least two sides to make point and counterpoint, yes… however, there is a difference between arguing and quarreling. This particular subject is a very interesting one to me and, well at very least, all of you. But the point of discussion here should not be to bash the hell out of the last comment, cuz let’s be honest, no one learns shit that way, they just sit in their towers firing back and forth with ammunition that will never break the skin. Opinions are like assholes, everybody’s got one, but there’s a very delicate way that one must go about presenting it if they want anybody to give it even a millisecond of consideration. And I think, most of us wish for that to happen, I mean we are commenting on this, are we not? If we’re going to comment on it, let’s choose our words carefully. You and I and the next girl and guy have an innate yearning for learning, and we can accomplish this far more efficiently if we argue like the rational human beings we are, in a civilized manner, rather than throwing our ideology around and hoping it sticks. I’d say it’s pretty goddamn obvious that doesn’t work. Forget about titles …. atheist, christian, demonic satan worshiper, I don’t give a shit what you call yourself or what you call me - I’m a person, you are a person. I don’t know about you but I find that when you leave it at that, you tend to learn a lot more, and with much less trouble. And one more thing. This may sound like just a bunch of hippie mumbo-jumbo, but like I said before, don’t fuckin label me, cuz whatever category you’ve put me in, you’re wrong. I’m in a category of my own , and mine only, just like each of you. Your opinion of Norway and religion is equally as important as mine. Let’s keep that in mind, and mind each others keeps. This is logic, this is life.
@Joel
Clearly you haven’t read up on world history before making that post. Atheists (Galileo, etc) have been prosecuted throughout the ages because of religious fanatics that used Christianity as a political tool to control the masses.
It constrained the evolution of science and rationality. Not to mention human evolution as a whole.
What is strange however is that people who believe in fairy tales and imaginary things like Dragons are called crazy. Yet people who believe in this ‘God’ which for all accounts and purposes has no proof that it’s actually real, are accepted by society.
The very fact that Norway has those statistics, while remaining predominantly atheistic, goes to show that religion has no more purpose in contemporary society. It’s a thing of the past that should never have existed to begin with.
However unfortunately as mentioned before, it’s a great political tool.
@Rob Parker: +1 for your comment.
Stone: I once met a guy who didn’t have an opinion.. then again, he also didn’t have an asshole.
I find all of this very interesting. All to oftin have I seen religions jump on everyones back for not following their faiths and beliefs. I find it tiering and quite annoying. But to be honest, I really don’t care what they think, or do. I am an Agnostic and I have my own beliefs and even faith. “Oh my! How can one have faith with out God!?” It’s funny to think it, but it’s not nessicary to have a god or gods in your life to have faith, to know right or wrong. I have faith in myself, my friends, and my family. I have their love and their trust. If I need help, I know they are there to catch me and no God will save me in my time of need. If I die and find out there is a god(s) and he/she/they punish me because I didn’t swear to their doctrins, because I didn’t say that I believed in them, if they judged me based on those things and not my good will. My contrabutions to humanity and to help those in need, then let me be D***ed for that is not a god worth worshiping. We don’t need the faiths of religions who have proven in the past to cause more harm than good. We can help ourselves be a prosperous species with pure hearts and good nature. It’s in ourselves, not granted to us.
“Comment from Marianne
Date: Friday November 9th, 2007, 10:18am
Comment to CraigB: Actually you’re not automatically a member of the state church in Norway, you have to be christened to be a member”
you’re actually both right. while you are not counted as a member untill you are baptised, you are automatically considered a follower (tilhører) of the church from the moment you are born unless both of your parents are members of other churches or actively apply for you not to be considered a follower. it is enough for one of your parents to be a follower for your name to be entered to the lists the moment you are born. and it is the number of followers, and not members, that is being thrown about in social debate as the “size” of the church. it is also the number on which the financial support for the church is based.
this unusual (and inconsequential) differentiation between different categories of membership is often the cause of misunderstandings in discussions such as these.
on another note, its funny to see how many people who miss the obvious point of this comic strip. thanks to the author for clarifying what i’d have thought to be obvious to any reader: the point is to show how religious conservatives continually draw conclusions about society that do not stand up to even the most superficial scrutiny, and that even a child can see through their rethoric once they know a few facts.
another, more amusing note:
when downloading the form for withdrawing one’s name from the lists of the church of norway, norton antivirus will go off like hell (or did, a year ago) as you try to open the document.
when downloading the form to enter your name into the lists as a member, there’s no problems whatsoever.
coincidence? probably. amusing? definately.
ulv, that is quite interesting about norton. But let’s remember that there is of course no such thing as coincidence. God, in all his wisdom and profound glory has a plan for all of us (especially melody). And apparently, his plan includes screwing with peoples computers via anti-virus software when he feels threatened. I mean can ya blame the guy? It’s a hard knock life up there, and to be completely honest, if I were in his uber-gigantic shoes I would have used my omnipotence the same way.
Speaking of another, more amusing note, I find it interesting that the spellcheck for this comment box will let you know you’ve spelled “christian” wrong if the “c” isn’t capitalized. However, god, protestant, atheist, etc., are good to go in the lowercase.
Also, Ian, I can’t say I’m too surprised that that guy didn’t have an opinion…I’m sure he was well aware that he was always full of shit.
I forgot to mention, Jason, very well put, I’m right there with ya.
Zing!!
+1 for Jason. I’m totally in line with how you think.
“It’s in ourselves, not granted to us.” Great phrase.
i really am tired of all this.
i don’t believe in god and that doesn’t make me less human than you are.
if you want to spend your life being afraid of burning in hell, that’s fine and not my problem at all
but leave the rest of us alone to live peacefully
religion is nice it makes u feel so much smarter ……. hehe
ya know…im 13, i go on youtube to find a christian band i type in “christian” u know what i get?…I get a bunch of athiests preaching about how there “is no god”…i click a different video and its the same thing but a different athiest preaching, it makes me sick that they want to break mine, and othere christians religion down…i dont mind if they’re athiest…just dont tell us that there “is no god”.
The atheists you hear complaining are doing so because they’re tired of the exact same thing happening to them from Christians.. constantly cramming god(s) down their throat.
I went to Denmark and Sweden back in 1958 and found that they were good Scandinavian brothers (sisters) to Norway way back then. So good to hear that the peace mongers are just as “God” free today! I would like to visit Norway to see her beauty and drink a beer or sip some coffee with some of those atheists one more time.
I had the pleasure of working with several Norwegians a few years ago, they were extreamly generous and kind people. Being from the UK i can quite honestly say that unless your parents force religion on you (which happens all too often with certain groups of people) you are almost unquestionably atheist. It sickens me how much power religious groups have and the way they inflict their stupid laws on everybody. I’d guess that the ‘atheist’ figure if only taken from under 30’s in Scandinavia, UK, Holland and Belgium you would see extremely high figures. Rational and critical though is taught in schools here, thinking rationally almost certainly leads to an atheistic view on life.
“You clown shoe”…..THAT is funny…When I was growing up, my parents made myself and both brothers go to church until we were 16…They didn’t care which one….Once we turned 16, it became optional, and all 3 of us dropped it….But the religious education was a good idea (I don’t use algebra either and I had to take classes in that as well)….What I took away from that experience was that one should develop a personal code and live by it…Not for fear of Hell or hopes of Heaven, but because basics like the 10 commandments and the Golden Rule are simply the right things to do….But there are over 200 denominations in the US….so everyone is an atheist in 199 of them because only the brand they subscribe to is the “correct” one…I’ve met great people of all religions and real stinkers too…My take on it is that life is wonderful, but I don’t think there is a supreme being or afterlife….if there is, He (or She) will know that I’ve basically behaved myself and give me a pass….if that’s not the case and the big guy is that petty, I don’t want to be in eternity with him anyway….so it’s win win as far as I’m concerned…I’m good with being wormfood…
>For six days you shall labour and do all your work.
That’s useful?
>For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and consecrated it.
>You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.
yeah, these ten commandments are jam packed with usefulness.
LOL….Yeah…The Technical ones are useful too….Keeping the Sabbath Holy will insure I get one day to sleep in….I think we need two sabbaths, in fact….maybe one for bingo nights at the church, and another day off for everyone else……and not saying Goddamn too much keeps me from getting plowed into by Christians and makes me expand my vocabulary to useful phrases like Boy Howdy and Holy Smokes!!…But mostly I was speaking of the other ones….No killing or robbing, honoring father and mother, making moves on the wife next door….Things that keep drama out of your life…Nearly all the main line religions have the same basic rules for living, and by and large, they are well thought out….it’s when they get into the mystical details that separate them that they lose logic as far as I’m concerned…What one believes or doesn’t believe is entirely personal and ever evolving…I am against organized religion for the same reason I oppose group sex…I find the crowds distracting and I don’t necessarily want to do what they may want to do…I do find it useful to discuss it one on one with intelligent others in order to refine my own views….If a supreme being did not want me to use my logic, he would have made us all agreeable Labrador Retrievers….
Knowing not to murder or steal is an intrinsic human trait.
Should you honor your father if he’s a wife beating drunk?
It would depend on his jab technique and how is is in the later rounds….Maybe he IS a wife beating drunk, but perhaps he has a marvelous singing voice…or maybe keeps his shoes shined better than anyone…Or you could catch him passed out and pop a breaker bar over his hands and kneecaps to handicap him for fighting out of his weight division….Maybe Mom just needs to go to the gym and spend some time with the speed bag….Just thank your lucky stars you have this entertainment right at home and don’t have to invest in pay-for-view and enrich Don King!!
Memo to all christians:
I’ll keep my opinions and beliefs to myself if you will do the same. Noone and I repeat: No one has any right to force their beliefs on anyone else. You Christians and now the Muslims are trying to do just that. Go away! Your belief is no more valid than mine and I am not about to tell you what that is as it is mine and between me and whatever or whomever I believe in or don’t believe in.
Well I am an atheist and a member of the Catholic church. Reason being. I was a baby when I was signed up. It’s not like they check in on you to see if you still want to be a member every few years. So keeping that in mind I would imagine a lot of that %85 church membership in Norway is the Church roles from baptisms and the like and nothing at all to do with who is actually attending services regularly.
The founding fathers (USA) are a good example of Christians who werent. Almost to a man they were members of the church (Anglican of course) while again almost to a man they considered themselves Deists. If you say you are an atheist, you are one.
Hello!
My name is Lars and I am a Norwegian. I am going to write a book about what people from other countries think about Norway and norwegians. So it would be great if you could answer any of the following questions:
- Do you know much about Norway?
Do you have any opinion about Norway and Norwegians?
Do you think Norwegians have a particular look, act in a particular manor and have a strange cultur?
Are there diferences between Norwegians and Swedes?
Is there anything else you want to say about Norway and Norwegians?
Great if you write to: lars (at) frittforlag.no
Sincerly yours
Lars
What do Norwegians thinks about Hans Island? ;)
Bill: We do not get a share of the oil income. That’s just not correct. It does finance our welfare system, though.
The reason 85% is the member of church is because
of tradition, i dont know a single person in my friends, friends, family, friends of family that are christians.
And people just dont bother resigning from the church, there is no harm in being member of a church, regardless if you are a christian or not.