“Relationship With God”
Sep 2, 2008 Deep Thoughts, Stupidity
I just heard someone use the oft-used phrase “my relationship with God”, and had to stop the conversation right there.
In what sort of twisted world do we live in, where people can say something like that and expect to be taken seriously? You very literally have to be delusional to believe you can have a relationship with a god.
First off, if you believe you can hear the voice of god, you should seriously get your head checked. It bothers me to no end when people passively accept when people claim god spoke to them instead of telling them “no, that you was you talking to yourself”, or, “you’re crazy”. This complacency is entirely harmful, not just to the person making the claim, but also those around him/her. Letting people believe anything they want to is entirely harmful, in the same way letting a child believe he can fly if he jumps off the roof of a building.
Secondly, what sort of twisted definition of the word relationship do you have to have, in order to feel you can have a relationship with a being that never gives even the slightest response? When was the last time that god actually did anything for you? Has he ever cut the lawn when you asked? Give you a backrub when you feel tired? What about doing the dishes? Obviously not only an able bodied person can do such things, but what if anything has god EVER done in your “relationship”? I often get anecdotes of some obscure occurrence that was then construed as being an act of god, which can always be more accurately explained in a rational way.
This leads to believe that dogmatic individuals have no real concept of a relationship, which is quite an irony given that it is the religious crazies that feel the need to go on and on about our relationships and love all the time. Then again, they see no irony that a celibate old man should be teaching them of things like love. Why? Because of the intensely loving relationship the priest has with god. Hahaha.
So, what have I derived from all this? Religious folk are far more in love with ideas and dreams than they are with reality. They would much rather exist in a dream-like state than spend their life awake and self-aware. Don’t believe me? Why do all religions spend so much time fixated on the wonders of the after-life than on pre-after-life?
You only get one life, don’t spend it day dreaming of what’s next.
Tags: delusions, dreams, god, rational, relationship, religion
September 2nd, 2008 at 10:37pm
I can not agree more!
Religion is for people who like to live in an unrealistic state which is why they all have impractial rules and regulations!
These people are too fixated on death, it’s funny because they all claim to be happy, HAPPY PEOPLE!
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:44pm
I heart you Ian and your blog. I’m used to your reposting absurd stories from the interwebs, but I do love when you have a rant.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:09pm
I try. ;)
September 4th, 2008 at 5:14pm
Oh yeah, and this too, a comic about a relationship with god:
http://www.malfunctionjunction.net/comics/10172005.gif
September 6th, 2008 at 5:44pm
I am a Christian that professes he has a relationship with Jesus…Frankly I was surprised myself, I often thought God was to busy over in Israel to be really bothered with me…However over the Years I have grown to expect God to lead my life…as long as I am in His Will for my Life…Namely, I do not have unrepented sin….
I assume your faith is in Science,,,how about this…Our planet is 25,000 miles in circumference and weighing 6 septillion, 588 sextillion tons, hangs in space. Spinning at 1000 miles per hour with perfect precision so that time is kept to the split second, the earth careens through space around the sun in an orbit of 580 million miles at over 1000 miles per minute…Don’t get me started on, comets, the sun, the milky way…what about the human cell…If Charles Darwin was alive today he would probably be a repented christian….lol’s
The bible says the fool does not believe in God, not because of your intelect…but rather to say there is no God,, you would have to have always been, or search the universe…we are here but for a vapour of time, and cannot change one single hair on our heads…
Atheists attack christians, or christians intellect, because you cannot attack our Lord Jesus, or the Bible,, because both are true.. and if you could prove them false…you would scream from the roof tops….
But rather you attack humans, who are most foulable indeed….
The fact is Independence is what we all suffer from, independence from the living God…and the more you put strenght in your own independence the further you may get from our Lord… It is this independence you long for, you deciding what is right and wrong…we humans suffer from wanting to be our own gods…
In all fairness, does not the science of today, simply prove intellengent design?
Do you believe in the devil? and does he not whisper sweet nothings in your ear….
Look at all the evil in the world,, do you really think this is all just normal and the way it ought to be,,,, how much of the earth’s sufferring is do to Human greed?
Your Christian Friend, believe it or not!
September 7th, 2008 at 10:53pm
What are you basing this presumption on?
So, where did god come from? Has he always been?
So I wonder, who do you suppose will tell me about god? Will it be god himself, or a human? How will i know this person will be telling the truth and not telling me what he thinks? What if he is wrong? What if the bible is not the word of god? What if this person who teaches me about the bible is not really someone sent by the devil? What if Christianity is not the right religion and by engaging in Christianity, I am only making god more and more angry?
What if god doesn’t exist at all and I’ve been wasting my life with trivial non-sense, only to die an old man with no accomplishments because of my misguided devotion to a being that does not exist?
Certainly not. In fact, it’s the exact opposite.
You blame humans for suffering and affix all positives to god? How convenient.
September 8th, 2008 at 11:20am
still enjoying the conversation…
Charles Darwin….website included
THE QUOTE: From the Origin of Species, CHAPTER VI - DIFFICULTIES OF THE THEORY
“Organs of extreme Perfection and Complication. To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.
This is not why I say he would probably be a converted christian,,,
But Darwin stated something that his theory would crumble if… i could go search it ( something to do with the Human cell)( and also Bacterial flagella does not fit with natural selection )…..
and what ever he stated has been proven today..i have it on a video…plus…I read alittle about darwin…he really never answered any tough question….
Lastly did you know darwin’s grandfather had similiar ideas, before the Galapagos island…this is very strange…if this is true he had preconceived ideas before Galapagos…and that is not science…
“So, where did God come from? Has he always been?”
In all fairness where do you stop, how far do you go back?….what came first the chicken or the egg…and where did the egg come from..cosmic soup?….Do you look to a cosmic soup?… if you do your still missing the missing link….I’ve watched video’s on DNA and the building blocks…potentially from your soup…
I think it takes way more faith to believe in the soup theory ….than intellengent design….
Like I said before, the science I read proves my faith,,and the science you look to proves yours….so science taken with a bias proves nothing…for either of us…
As to “You blame humans for suffering and affix all positives to God? How convenient”
Absoultely…..God is perfect..the Creator…and whatever He does is Right…and He is true to Himself in that perfection…what ever that maybe…..
As to “What if he is wrong? What if the bible is not the word of god? What if “…..
I tell you the truth…Jesus loves you…and He knocks on the door…and all who seek Him will find Him….I speak the truth….
It is up to each individual to open that door…and then the truth will be revealed to you….But it takes faith to open that door….christianity is unique in many ways…
the most unique way, is it takes belief in Jesus… not trusting in MAN’S GOOD BEHAVIOUR for a ticket to paradise….but realizing that we are guilty…. and cannot earn our way to heaven through our so called good deeds…
September 8th, 2008 at 11:21am
website I quoted from
http://www.carm.org/evo_questions/darwineye.htm
September 9th, 2008 at 8:47am
Give it up, Bruce. The burden of proof is on you, and due to the fact that you will never offer anything concrete or rational to back up your claims - they are meaningless. It’s also hard to take you seriously when you have trouble spelling ‘intelligent’ which is the operative word in the back-peddling attempts at a backwards, irrational argument against science.
If you’d like, you can go ahead and say that God created evolution, and he set everything in motion, and now leaves everything as it is to progress how it will. I won’t agree with you, but it’s certainly a more reasonable ideology than actually believing - for just a second - that we’re all running on a treadmill after a dangling carrot, praying and repenting and slaving away our short, short, short lives - wasting them in church, waging wars, forcing beliefs on others, enforcing bigotry, teaching close-mindedness everywhere we go… in order to appease something there is no proof of even existing.
September 9th, 2008 at 10:44am
Hey ..I feel it is time for me to go…sorry for the spelling mistakes…I apologize
as for some progress, I have finally saw someone spell God with a capital G.
Lot’s of laugh’s
As for my intelligence,,, I am sure I am far less educated, intellectual….less of a forward thinker..than maybe all that have ever visit this site…
All I can say to that is… thank you Jesus
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:21pm
Bruce….
If it was not for science, you would still be thinking the earth was flat and the center of the universe. Ironic don’t you think, that you use science to try and prove your case?
The earth has 3 choices, slow down, consistent rotation or speed up. Either of the other 2 choices would probably make the earth uninhabital. By the way, why do any of the other planets and suns need to spin?
I have a cartoon that has god and an angel looking at a man’s brain, the caption says you are here. God says is this some kind of joke.
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:26pm
Now exchange man for god and instead of a mans brain it will be an insects brain, in which case the man will say is this some kind of a joke?
October 3rd, 2008 at 7:09pm
** the universe evinces neither affect, nor morality, nor intellect **
A mishmash of middle eastern magical texts makes spurious claims of being god-given. Their nihilistic dualism and androcentric understanding of human nature are too damaging to contribute to a humane planet-wide ethos.
Neither physical nature nor human nature *say* anything about a superordinate, supernatural realm populated by creators or law givers. Nature is silent. There is no concept of truth in nature. (Indeed, there are no concepts whatsoever in nature.) Nature *knows* nothing.
Nature is neither meaningful nor meaningless. Neither a source of comfort (natural theology) nor a source of despair (existentialism). Both are rooted in the same mistaken presupposition that supernatural *meaning* can be found by searching the heavens for gods or quarrying human inwardness for moral laws.
Instead, religions belong to cultures embedded in nature. And *cultures* are our distinctive human-all-too-human handiwork. Religions are obsolete, unnecessary cultural artifacts.
Any specific religion reenacts and institutionalizes a cultic myth. It gets spread through custom and imitation, financially supported by mores and law, and enforced by intimidation and violence.
Xian mythology, like related big-4 monotheisms zoroastrianism, post-exilic judaism, and islam, posits a moralized universal order which never existed. No more can be found in that fiction than the ancestors put into it.
Some of that *meaning* derives ultimately from Sargon I’s imperial propaganda when the very first violent yoking together of disparate city-state cultures occurred in what is now Iraq.
Sargon I appears in a low relief sculpture as a god receiving a legal and moral code directly from a greater god enthroned above him. (A myth of divine origin of morality turns out to be ancient political “spin.” Still works today, doesn’t it?)
Adjust your understanding, adjust your expectations, and you will have a right relationship with the only total reality there is, nature.
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