Comments on: Evolutionists Flock To Darwin-Shaped Wall Stain http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/ Your last stop before eternal enlightenment Fri, 10 Sep 2010 01:52:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Chris Sanford http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/comment-page-1/#comment-20664 Chris Sanford Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:57:16 +0000 http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/#comment-20664 Natural Selection as coined by the evolutionist is the process that removes qualities that are less favorable for the conditions and as a result new spieces are formed. Natural selection is the process by which favorable heritable traits become more common in successive generations of a population of reproducing organisms, and unfavorable heritable traits become less common, due to differential reproduction of genotypes. Over time, this process may result in adaptations that specialize organisms for particular ecological niches and may eventually result in the emergence of new species. In other words, natural selection is the mechanism by which evolution may take place within a given population of organisms. Never have we seen in the fossil record or from the naked eye emergence of new species. http://www.icr.org/natural-selection/ The battle for truth is still being waged Natural Selection as coined by the evolutionist is the process that removes qualities that are less favorable for the conditions and as a result new spieces are formed.
Natural selection is the process by which favorable heritable traits become more common in successive generations of a population of reproducing organisms, and unfavorable heritable traits become less common, due to differential reproduction of genotypes. Over time, this process may result in adaptations that specialize organisms for particular ecological niches and may eventually result in the emergence of new species. In other words, natural selection is the mechanism by which evolution may take place within a given population of organisms.

Never have we seen in the fossil record or from the naked eye emergence of new species. http://www.icr.org/natural-selection/ The battle for truth is still being waged

]]> By: . http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/comment-page-1/#comment-14848 . Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:53:51 +0000 http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/#comment-14848 That's kind of you to try and post explanations for certain things that people don't understand in the Bible or in Christian tradition. However, you're missing the point that some people just don't accept the Bible or religious tradition as true, period. Just because you can prove that nothing in Of Mice and Men is contradictory or nonsensical doesn't mean that it's true, does it? That’s kind of you to try and post explanations for certain things that people don’t understand in the Bible or in Christian tradition. However, you’re missing the point that some people just don’t accept the Bible or religious tradition as true, period. Just because you can prove that nothing in Of Mice and Men is contradictory or nonsensical doesn’t mean that it’s true, does it?

]]> By: Bruce http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/comment-page-1/#comment-14598 Bruce Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:31:38 +0000 http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/#comment-14598 Hey well first, I expected to get beat up around here,,,but frankly I am quite surprised how gentle it has been...and I am plesantly surprised.... I will be the first to admitt, that I do not have all the answers...but I like to try...and if you stump me, that is often where the growth is... I have answers to your questions, and they sastify me....But I must admitt, I never remember a time not believing in Jesus... first to "an “eternal God, that cannot die comes to earth to die for my sins".... God is perfect in His Love, and also perfect in His Judgement....If He let man off with out punishing sin, He would not be true to Himself...The Perfect Judge... But God Loves us, and Has made away for us...In the old testament God shows us the Law...This was given to show us why we do not have fellowship with Him....and no man has ever fulfilled the Law, or stayed within the boundaries of God's will for our lives.... Hence why we can't have a relationship with Him. So God Himself ( the Son ) became part of His creation....accomplished the law...Truly sufferred..Living as a man...The world hated Him...Jesus was Punished, and Punished Hard.... Hence come the sacrifice, The Just ( Jesus didn't deserve to be punishment because he was perfect as a man)for the unjust (me, who deserve's to be punished, because I do not live within my Creators standard) For as one man adam, lead us into independence from God, and our fall from grace.. One restores us back into the Family of God....Jesus This way, the Judge can restore man, and be true to Himself as the Holy Judge of sin..... As for "His research shows that everything in the bible was taken from the Egyptians"... I would say this...I don't like defending things that I wasn't around for...and I didn't read the book...But...It is taught amoung christians that the devil knew all that was going to happen...Because God told him in the garden, how he was going to be defeated by Jesus(losing his power over death) It is quite common knowledge that the devil is a counterfiet...He wants to be God, and is ruler of the earth right now....but the devil copies all of God's plans..the best way to tell a lie is to keep it as close to the truth as possible...and the devil is the father of lies.... For example...the devil had ancient people worshipping a mother and child....thousands of years before Jesus birth.... I would end today like this, it is not all about us humans, some may say we are in the middle of a battle between God and His fallen angels ( know named demons)...But we disobeyed God as well, but we were lead by the devil through temptation, and in my mind that is why we are given a second chance so to speak..... Hey

well first, I expected to get beat up around here,,,but frankly I am quite surprised how gentle it has been…and I am plesantly surprised….

I will be the first to admitt, that I do not have all the answers…but I like to try…and if you stump me, that is often where the growth is…

I have answers to your questions, and they sastify me….But I must admitt, I never remember a time not believing in Jesus…

first to “an “eternal God, that cannot die comes to earth to die for my sins”….

God is perfect in His Love, and also perfect in His Judgement….If He let man off with out punishing sin, He would not be true to Himself…The Perfect Judge…

But God Loves us, and Has made away for us…In the old testament God shows us the Law…This was given to show us why we do not have fellowship with Him….and no man has ever fulfilled the Law, or stayed within the boundaries of God’s will for our lives….

Hence why we can’t have a relationship with Him.

So God Himself ( the Son ) became part of His creation….accomplished the law…Truly sufferred..Living as a man…The world hated Him…Jesus was Punished, and Punished Hard….

Hence come the sacrifice, The Just
( Jesus didn’t deserve to be punishment because he was perfect as a man)for the unjust (me, who deserve’s to be punished, because I do not live within my Creators standard)

For as one man adam, lead us into independence from God, and our fall from grace.. One restores us back into the Family of God….Jesus

This way, the Judge can restore man, and be true to Himself as the Holy Judge of sin…..

As for “His research shows that everything in the bible was taken from the Egyptians”…

I would say this…I don’t like defending things that I wasn’t around for…and I didn’t read the book…But…It is taught amoung christians that the devil knew all that was going to happen…Because God told him in the garden, how he was going to be defeated by Jesus(losing his power over death)

It is quite common knowledge that the devil is a counterfiet…He wants to be God, and is ruler of the earth right now….but the devil copies all of God’s plans..the best way to tell a lie is to keep it as close to the truth as possible…and the devil is the father of lies….

For example…the devil had ancient people worshipping a mother and child….thousands of years before Jesus birth….

I would end today like this, it is not all about us humans, some may say we are in the middle of a battle between God and His fallen angels ( know named demons)…But we disobeyed God as well, but we were lead by the devil through temptation, and in my mind that is why we are given a second chance so to speak…..

]]> By: LuisFPB http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/comment-page-1/#comment-14566 LuisFPB Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:52:27 +0000 http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/#comment-14566 Bruce: You seem to be the honest type. I have to warn you that we make a lot of fun about religion/gods/cults/rituals/ and general nonsense, please don't be offended, and don't think that we are "angry"..... And about one of your comments, you are right, most religious people are just by name, its because of traditions, I use to be a catholic for a long time without really thinking why I was one (obviously my parents had to do with it, ironically I graduated from a jesuit HS and college... ) Until I started questioning myself all the "details" it became obvious I became a non believer (atheist) .... an "eternal" god, that can not die comes to earth to "die for my sins" and resuscitates after the 3rd day? is he trying to show off by "dying" when he knows he can not get killed? too much imagination !!! Llogari Pujol (a former priest) just wrote a book about the bible and where did all the stories in it came from. His research shows that everything in the bible was taken from the Egyptians, lots of people knew that...........but he cross references all the miracles, virgin birth, etc from texts, drawings in pyramids etc.. don't know if its available in English yet. Bruce:

You seem to be the honest type.

I have to warn you that we make a lot of fun about religion/gods/cults/rituals/ and general nonsense, please don’t be offended, and don’t think that we are “angry”…..

And about one of your comments, you are right, most religious people are just by name, its because of traditions, I use to be a catholic for a long time without really thinking why I was one (obviously my parents had to do with it, ironically I graduated from a jesuit HS and college… ) Until I started questioning myself all the “details” it became obvious I became a non believer (atheist) …. an “eternal” god, that can not die comes to earth to “die for my sins” and resuscitates after the 3rd day? is he trying to show off by “dying” when he knows he can not get killed? too much imagination !!!

Llogari Pujol (a former priest) just wrote a book about the bible and where did all the stories in it came from. His research shows that everything in the bible was taken from the Egyptians, lots of people knew that………..but he cross references all the miracles, virgin birth, etc from texts, drawings in pyramids etc.. don’t know if its available in English yet.

]]> By: Greg http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/comment-page-1/#comment-14565 Greg Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:24:49 +0000 http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/#comment-14565 I think Bruce is drunk. I think Bruce is drunk.

]]> By: Bruce http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/comment-page-1/#comment-14526 Bruce Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:33:42 +0000 http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/#comment-14526 As for "I’ve read the bible,and none of it made my life better" or/and "that turned me off to religion in the first place." Well first I would say it's not about religion, it's about relationship....you see religion is an institution run by men, who are most foulable, full of mistakes...and quite often let their own pride, and unrighteousness stand in the way of a relationship with God... Religion is something you practice, sometimes full of ritual...Men think they are earning their way to heaven via good works....Often when a man is religious, he may have little in the way of relationship.... Where relationship starts with respect and boundaries...and time spend in that relationship...In the case of my Lord..How aften am I praying....trying to stay within the boundaries that He has set out for man....how often do I put His rules before my wants or desires.... So when one says reading the Bible or religion made their life no better, or even worse..this does not surprise me...but if you said you tried to apply the principals in the new testament in your life,,,(truly an honest effort)...and God did not answer you,,I would be very surprised.. I can hear it now,,God talking to,,here we go,,,,well God doesn't have to talk to me to be active in my life,,,God the Father, Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit, have no limitations, none that man can imagine anyway.... As for “I’ve read the bible,and none of it made my life better” or/and “that turned me off to religion in the first place.”

Well first I would say it’s not about religion, it’s about relationship….you see religion is an institution run by men, who are most foulable, full of mistakes…and quite often let their own pride, and unrighteousness stand in the way of a relationship with God…

Religion is something you practice, sometimes full of ritual…Men think they are earning their way to heaven via good works….Often when a man is religious, he may have little in the way of relationship….

Where relationship starts with respect and boundaries…and time spend in that relationship…In the case of my Lord..How aften am I praying….trying to stay within the boundaries that He has set out for man….how often do I put His rules before my wants or desires….

So when one says reading the Bible or religion made their life no better, or even worse..this does not surprise me…but if you said you tried to apply the principals in the new testament in your life,,,(truly an honest effort)…and God did not answer you,,I would be very surprised..

I can hear it now,,God talking to,,here we go,,,,well God doesn’t have to talk to me to be active in my life,,,God the Father, Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit, have no limitations, none that man can imagine anyway….

]]> By: Bruce http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/comment-page-1/#comment-14515 Bruce Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:44:46 +0000 http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/#comment-14515 hey love the debate....were to start....First with Jesus wrath....God is perfect in His Love...and also perfect in His wrath.... Why I talked about His wrath, is Christian 101... you're suppose to tell people about God's wrath, in order for them to realize they need a saviour....so they understand what they need saving from... When I say I am God fearing, simply means that I understand God hates sin....and I fear His punishment of sin....or it is a way of reminding me of God's standard, not mine. As for christians scientists being few...and not leading the field...that does make sense...but the arguments christian scientist focus on are compelling,,,but I guess if I go into their argument bias,,as I am..I hear what I want to hear.... I would say this again,,,I wonder how many so called christians truly are christians..it is my fear that probably a great number of us will face the wrath of God...because alot of us only think they belong to the Family of God...but it should be noted, I can be extreme in my thinking, and I actually hope I am wrong... I am very interested in debating here...not to fully adopt your thinking, but for growth... hey love the debate….were to start….First with Jesus wrath….God is perfect in His Love…and also perfect in His wrath….

Why I talked about His wrath, is Christian 101… you’re suppose to tell people about God’s wrath, in order for them to realize they need a saviour….so they understand what they need saving from…

When I say I am God fearing, simply means that I understand God hates sin….and I fear His punishment of sin….or it is a way of reminding me of God’s standard, not mine.

As for christians scientists being few…and not leading the field…that does make sense…but the arguments christian scientist focus on are compelling,,,but I guess if I go into their argument bias,,as I am..I hear what I want to hear….

I would say this again,,,I wonder how many so called christians truly are christians..it is my fear that probably a great number of us will face the wrath of God…because alot of us only think they belong to the Family of God…but it should be noted, I can be extreme in my thinking, and I actually hope I am wrong…

I am very interested in debating here…not to fully adopt your thinking, but for growth…

]]> By: . http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/comment-page-1/#comment-14487 . Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:48:22 +0000 http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/#comment-14487 The Bible does portray God as wrathful and vindictive. I don't think it does the same of Christ, but if the two are one ... maybe it's like two sides of a coin? Maybe he suffers from multiple personalities? Well, we'd need a Word of God for this (I mean in a tvtropes.org way), but since the authors are all dead, there's not much we can do except make our own interpretations. Or we could just read Harry Potter instead. The Bible does portray God as wrathful and vindictive. I don’t think it does the same of Christ, but if the two are one … maybe it’s like two sides of a coin? Maybe he suffers from multiple personalities? Well, we’d need a Word of God for this (I mean in a tvtropes.org way), but since the authors are all dead, there’s not much we can do except make our own interpretations.

Or we could just read Harry Potter instead.

]]> By: Brandon http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/comment-page-1/#comment-14477 Brandon Sun, 07 Sep 2008 08:05:08 +0000 http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/#comment-14477 believe on Jesus, before the day of the Lord…or Face His Wrath…i would imagine an extra portion for you…but only a guess…..Bruce ================================== ===================== Why do Christians like you always portray Christ as wrathful and vindictive? believe on Jesus, before the day of the Lord…or Face His Wrath…i would imagine an extra portion for you…but only a guess…..Bruce
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Why do Christians like you always portray Christ as wrathful and vindictive?

]]> By: . http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/comment-page-1/#comment-14475 . Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:45:48 +0000 http://www.irreligion.org/2008/09/05/evolutionists-flock-to-darwin-shaped-wall-stain/#comment-14475 That's a fabulous attitude Ian. I've grown up in a Christian society and not a single Christian I've ever met has been open to debate. It's always "Well, the Bible says" or "Jesus died for your sins, you should be grateful" or "I'll be praying for you ..." or "God loves you despite your comments" or "Believe in Jesus before the day of the Lord" You know, crap like that. Also, seeing as you're open to being converted, might I interest you in my own church, the Jesus Is The Son of The Invisible Pink Unicorn And The Flying Spaghetti Monster Even Though She Was Married To The Prophet Mohammed At The Time church? Don't listen to Bruce, he's a heathen. That’s a fabulous attitude Ian. I’ve grown up in a Christian society and not a single Christian I’ve ever met has been open to debate. It’s always “Well, the Bible says” or “Jesus died for your sins, you should be grateful” or “I’ll be praying for you …” or “God loves you despite your comments” or “Believe in Jesus before the day of the Lord” You know, crap like that.

Also, seeing as you’re open to being converted, might I interest you in my own church, the Jesus Is The Son of The Invisible Pink Unicorn And The Flying Spaghetti Monster Even Though She Was Married To The Prophet Mohammed At The Time church? Don’t listen to Bruce, he’s a heathen.

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