Filed Under (News, Stupidity) by Ian on 12-12-2007
All this time I though Mitt Romney and Mike Huackabee were running for president of the United States; how mistake I’ve been all this time, the two are clearly running for pope. Seriosuly, who gives a flying fuck how much they believe in zombie jesus? How will this in ANY WAY make them a better president? These two are bickering over mythology instead of actual issues that have even the slightest bit of consequence in the world today. The US economy is slumping, housing market is bust, the country is swimming in debt, two ongoing wars and the prospects for another one on the horizon and they’re taking shots at each other over faith. BRA-FUCKING-VO.
Huckabee questions tenet of Romney’s Mormon faith
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee said he considers his rival Mitt Romney’s Mormon faith a religion, not a cult, but questioned whether Mormons believe “Jesus and the devil are brothers.”
Huckabee raised the question on his own in an interview to appear in The New York Times magazine on Sunday, and ignited a new flap in the up-for-grabs race to be the Republican Party’s nominee in the November 2008 presidential election.
Huckabee was asked if he considered Mormonism a cult or a religion. “I think it’s a religion,” he said in the interview, published on the newspaper’s Web site on Wednesday. “I really don’t know much about it.”
Then he asked: “Don’t Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?”
Romney, who has tried to dispel conservative Christians’ worries about the Mormon faith, responded on NBC’s “Today” show on Wednesday.
“I think attacking someone’s religion is really going too far. It’s just not the American way. and I think people will reject that,” the former Massachusetts governor said.
Filed Under (Bad News, News) by Ian on 08-12-2007
As much as I dislike Giuliani, Romney has now taken top place for candidates I dislike. He wants tolerance for his religion, but wants none for non-believers. Fuck Romney.
Romney Spokesman Won’t Say If Atheists Have Place In America
A spokesman for the Mitt Romney campaign is thus far refusing to say whether Romney sees any positive role in America for atheists and other non-believers, after Election Central inquired about the topic yesterday
It’s a sign that Romney may be seeking to submerge evangelical distaste for Mormonism by uniting the two groups together in a wider culture war. Romney’s speech has come under some criticism, even from conservatives like David Brooks and Ramesh Ponnuru, for positively mentioning many prominent religions but failing to include anything positive about atheists and agnostics.
Indeed, the only mentions of non-believers were very much negative. “It is as if they’re intent on establishing a new religion in America – the religion of secularism. They’re wrong,” Romney said, being met by applause from the audience.
Filed Under (Bad News, News) by Ian on 06-12-2007
Yeah, apparently the United States Constitution Bill of Rights means nothing to someone like Mitt Romney. In a speech he gave today he was quoted saying:
mittromney.com
There are some who may feel that religion is not a matter to be seriously considered in the context of the weighty threats that face us. If so, they are at odds with the nation’s founders, for they, when our nation faced its greatest peril, sought the blessings of the Creator. And further, they discovered the essential connection between the survival of a free land and the protection of religious freedom. In John Adams’ words: “We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. … Our Constitution,” he said, “was made for a moral and religious people.”
Freedom requires religion just as religion requires freedom. Freedom opens the windows of the soul so that man can discover his most profound beliefs and commune with God. Freedom and religion endure together, or perish alone.
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No religion should dictate to the state nor should the state interfere with the free practice of religion. But in recent years, the notion of the separation of church and state has been taken by some well beyond its original meaning. They seek to remove from the public domain any acknowledgment of God. Religion is seen as merely a private affair with no place in public life. It’s as if they are intent on establishing a new religion in America - the religion of secularism. They are wrong.
They? Who is “they”? He’s clearly talking about those people like me, people who believe freedom of religion means not having a to pick a religion at all. Clearly mr. Romney thinks everyong should have to believe in god and practice some religion. The founding fathers were clear that religion was an option open to all and in no way should ever be imposed by the government. Disagree? Go read the first amendment of the US Constitution’s Bill of Rights.
I would also like to point out that this tool referred to secularism as a religion. What an idiot.